Friday, December 29, 2017

Celestron Sky Scout: The Bad News and the Good News UPDATE!

IMPORTANT: Be sure to read my DECEMBER 29, 2019 update review at the bottom of this post
regarding the GPS ROLL-OVER OF April 6, 2019 that affected GPS worldwide.


I went to a thrift shop today and found a Celestron Sky Scout Personal Planetarium device. It was BRAND NEW in the box, never had been used! I had seen these expensive devices in astronomy mags for year (well, prior to 2015, that is) but the price... OUTRAGEOUS for something that had no magnification, like a telescope or binocular might give. But...







...finding on a 50% off sale (whoohoo!) I got it for $17.50 and hurried home to give it a go!

I popped in two AA batteries, powered it up outside and waited for the GPS in it to "fix" on a sufficient amount of GPS satellites... and waited and waited... "Can't fix"!!!!!

Ok, maybe it needs an update?

I install the CD-ROM software, hit "Update Software" and it downloaded the software update (that is, for the computer, NOT the device). I connected the device via the supplied USB cable and... "Cannot find" the device... AAARGH. It turns out that in Windows 10 a lot of legacy stuff does not work because "This program will not work on a 64 bit Windows"...

Ok, I could put out an old XP laptop and try it but... I "googled" Celestron Sky Scout and found many other frustrated owners (old and new) whose device was almost a brick... no way to update the firmware for the device to manually set the date past 2015 !!!! And Celestron just stopped production and support for it! And most people could not get the device to get a GPS fix before the device gave up.

That is the BAD news.

BUT, I have GOOD NEWS (sort of)!

One post on CloudyNights seemed to have found a solution (sort of) to the GPS fix problem.
And it goes like this:

"When you startup and try to acquire a GPS signal, don't wait for it to time out.  Once it acquires two satellites, hit "Back" and then select "retry acquiring a GPS fix..." again.
When you see the progress bar, hit the "GPS" button to expand the screen to include a list of satellites, relative strength of signal and acquisition status (i.e. black is "locked on satellite") >
Do this each time it acquires a new satellite and after three attempts it'll lock on fairly quickly (about 30 seconds for me).  You should end up with 3-5 satellites in a short time."

So I popped outside and gave it another go, using this suggestion and... YAY! GOOD NEWS!
It worked!

Sort of... in that for all celestial objects that do not move it did fine.
But for object that move like the Sun, Moon, planets, etc  it will not be able to properly identify them or their positions past the year 2015 (This post is December, 2017).

But, hey, at least it isn't a total loss!

December 30, 2017 UPDATE:
What can you still do with a Sky Scout?

* You can listen / read the info on all the objects in its data base

* You can listen / read the entire "Field Guide" section of the data base and learn about basic
     astronomy (lots of lessons there!)

* You can hook an amplified speaker to the headphone jack so that everyone can hear the info

* If you can get the GPS to get a fix you can still use it
       * to identify / locate all interstellar objects in its data base
       * and attach it to a dobsonian telescope and use its 'locate' feature as a finder scope
       * to determine your GPS location so you can input the info into a non-GPS "goto" scope
       * to discover the UTC time

UPDATE on December 29, 2019: Since April 6, 2019 the world had to "re-fixed" the GPS positioning to account for the magnetic shifts taking place gradually on our planet. As a result, this device may not be as accurate as it was prior to that date. Even telescopes with "go-to" ability are struggling with this issue. However, given the fact that this device is not "telephoto" it may give fairly accurate info anyway.

Hope this helps someone either NOT to purchase one or at least give it a second life for identifying all other celestial objects!

4 comments:

  1. Just got one the other day, a dated piece of equipment but very educational. put in current time& my Coordinates, acquired 4 or 5 GPS satellites.Entered year of 2013 for 2019.I don't have an astronomy major but this has peaked my interest in a hobby that was set aside a long time ago.
    Thank you for your post.

    M. Tatum

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  2. Just got one the other day, a dated piece of equipment but very educational. put in current time& my Coordinates, acquired 4 or 5 GPS satellites.Entered year of 2013 for 2019.I don't have an astronomy major but this has peaked my interest in a hobby that was set aside a long time ago.
    Thank you for your post.

    M. Tatum

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  3. recently bought a sky scout almost under the same circumstances. I would have appreciated to be informed of the current problems before making the purchase though, that would have at least been an informed purchase.excitement of such an brilliant devise to have all up in smoke..

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  4. bought a sky scout under the same circumstances as the above mention patron of celestron.it would have been appeciated to have been informed about the current problems the devise is now experiencing before making the purchase.

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